Automining & Auto Exploring (Click a sector tell ship to explore it) appear to be best way other than using seminars etc. This was all before the last update keep in mind. How do I make a good map layout for CSGO? Yeah, so far it seems best to give the autotrader a very limited set of goods to trade and a limited region to trade them in. Boosting, which drains shields into engines to provide a rapid speed increase. Credits and distribution permission. Distribute wares is much worse. by ajime Thu, 6. The Endless Space. Bob was the same age as Susy. ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} it's like winning the lottery twice in a row. But i downloaded the "learn all the things" mod from nexus, which enables all crewmembers to learn up to one star per hour. I have no idea why egosoft thinks the current rate is okay, but I use a mod called "faster crew leveling" which increases leveling to a rate which feels far better, not too fast or slow. Fly every ship, TRADE and FIGHT to BUILD your empire with modular station construction and THINK carefully when embarking on an epic journey. Building space stations and factories has always been a foundation of the X games. https://www.egosoft.com:8444/confluence/display/X4WIKI/X4+Wiki+Home. X4 Manual: This is the foundation of our living and breathing universe. 3 scans (hold R two seconds) for stations. Manage an empire or EXPLORE space in first person. 4. You can do distribute wares with a 2 star pilot. Marines on the other hand only level when they do boarding and die a lot doing that so it isn't easy. Dec 20, 09:13, Post This way it should cost you around 20K to get a autotrader pilot. They will begin searching for trade route and initiate trading. With the manager ordering them to do things, its only a feeling, but it seems like they level faster than if I am giving the orders. Level 3 is required only if you want it to be set as Default behavior. Races expand their empire based on supply and demand, which leads to an extremely dynamic universe where every action the player makes can influence the course of the entire universe. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} You can get over 200 5 star service crew every few hours or so. My Paranid traders are dumb as rocks, one of them flew into argon into Argon space full of space fuel and got scanned by police, I think he may have been eating too much lead paint as a child, then he got blown up by pirates because he refused to drop the 9 medical supplies he had in his cargo. Unless egosoft tuned some constants in the leveling probability formula recently. by chip56 Thu, 6. Just right click empty space on map -> Auto Trade (Galaxy, etc). All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. I've been ordering folk to fly around for ages, and ordering trading a lot, and nothing seems to have changed at all. and next one is much more difficult to get. X4: Foundations - Spoilers; X4: Foundations - Technical . The global auto trade command is not meant to be used. .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} It can still take up to a couple hours to get a station with just storage and set up trade, and then a couple more hours to get them leveled up. Marines: Used to claim abandoned ships and board other ships and stations or to repel enemy boarding attempts. Every order you have given to a ship before turns into a mission objective when you pilot the ship yourself. Originally posted by Gregorovitch: I have found so far that auto-miner pilots level up pretty fast. 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X4 Manual: Whats the quickest way to level one? Everything comes out of the simulated economy. I got lucky on all my pilots until i just bought my first large ship and the pilot is 1-star and ise basically useless to me. Curious how to find or identify those. Once you've unlocked teleportation, you can jump from ship to ship a lot quicker and experience all the critical situations your NPCs encounter first hand. x4: foundations how to level up pilots. https://www.egosoft.com:8444/confluence/display/X4WIKI/X4%3A+Foundations+Manual Travel Mode, which has modest acceleration and lowers agility but offers . Sadly this is the right answer, it baffles me why the devs think that you need to spend multiple days real time to train one captain to basic proficiency. How to level them? . You can only give them management seminar if they're working as manager. 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Approach the station and request for docking permission by pressing Shift + D. At the station you can hire a pilot/captain and other personnel for your ship. It would be much better if player could simply "buy" more experienced crew and pilots/captains at shipyards at bigger expense. You name it. It actually has some surprising effects.Stay Connected with Werit: https:. Anybody know the fastest way to level up pilot skills so I can finally setup Autotrade? I also buy a Pegasus Vanguard from Trinity Sanctum 3, with minimum load out, but with a pilot + service man. Bonjour tous suivez ces explications en deux phases, Phase 1 Rendez-vous dans le secteur tmoin silencieux ou dans tout autre secteur avec une station khaak avec un ou plusieurs destroyer donn leur l'ordre de dfendre la zone autour de la station pour protger vos chasseur du flux constant de khaak(disco,nova, clipse ou autre) donn l'ordre a vos chasseur d'attaque la station directement la station ne peut tre dtruite Rcolte vos pilotes et faite tourner, Tir sur votre vaisseau comme un constructeur ou un destroyer plus vous avez des lments de surface mieux c'est. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. ._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4{width:100%}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA{display:none}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA,._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:block}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:none} The only things in trading he can do are "distribute wares" and "revisit known location" but I want him to level up to access "auto-trade". You don't have to micro-manage them, the manager of the station will handle that. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. So u won't see many lvl 4+ pilots in a vanilla game unless u buy them or get stupidly lucky. I stand in my cockpit, not in the pilot seat and let my Pilot do things through the Map. by grapedog Thu, 3. Also keep in mind that "distribute wares" is essentially the same as autotrading, but you can't tether them to a home sector. ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} What tasks make them increase most quickly? 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The expansion greatly increases the size of the universe and introduces two new Split family clans along with their economy, new ships, weapons and station modules. Before I do anything, I turn on AutoTrade (if level3 or better) or Distribute (if level2), add a few wares, then commit the change. X4 Manual: Vous ne perdez pas de point de rputation avec votre propre compagnie lol dtruisez tout les lments (les tourelles, moteur, bouclier, all) abaisser la coque a 5% avec le temps en un temps record vous aurez des ingnieurs lite, Hello everyone follow these explanations in two phases, Go to the silent witness sector or any other sector with a khaak station with one or more destroyer ordered to defend the area around the station to protect your fighters from the constant flow of khaak (disco, nova, eclipse or other) given them the order to attack the station directly the station cannot be destroyed Harvest your pilots and spin the pilot chair Good and easy way for 5 star pilot medium for 3 star engineers, Shoot at your ship like a builder or destroyer the more surface elements you have the better. With seta on 6x and 10 courier ships assigned as subordinate traders for a station, the expected time to produce your first 3-star captain is about 4 days of real life time. you can fly up to it and then land down on it by using the . For the first time in any X game, all parts of the NPC economy are manufactured from resources. They usually put this one in as a trick question. . You need to roll (tilt side to side with q and e), align the front of your starship (hold mouse1 and turn to face), and get yourself lined up with the centre of the pad (z and x to put throttle backward and forward, or mousewheel also works), then hit s to go down and land. Marines actually gain exp quite quickly, if your boarding frequently. 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