I had a 90-minute-each-way commute once (public transportation had to take two trains and a bus. I pick jobs I apply for (Im lucky to be in a in-demand job so I can be picky) and if Id really have no choice for a job, Id move closer (Im by no means attached to my house, its just a house). But honestly, we cant figure out how to still live in NJ with under a 3-hour round trip commute. My job before I was 3.5 miles from work and it took about 15 minutes in the morning (thanks to 13 traffic lights) and at least 30 minutes in the evening. God, that is a terrible commute. I used to live in a northern suburb of chicago and commuted 30 miles to the south side of the city by car (public transit wasnt an option because of the areas it would take me through to get there). Its also better for the environment and limits your cars exposure to CA freeway road hazards, because we all know theyre not very well maintained and CA drivers can be Irrational. Ez. I live in Sacramento and commutes are better here than in L.A. or the Bay Area, but it is getting worse. All it says in the brief mention of his is that hes insisted that its normal for the area. If Id done that commute via freeways, it would have taken at least an hour each way. My car is 19 years old with over 100k miles, but still runs great because its been mostly long drives with not a lot of stop & go. Makes the journey so much more enjoyable, to the extent that sometimes Im even looking forward to getting into the car for an extended period. That doesnt have to mean a new car, it can mean things like a nice sound-system, snacks and sunglasses in the seat pocket, nice-smelling stuff if thats what you go for. Distance in miles is not how the commute is measured in LA/OC, and a 2-hour commute could be entirely normal based on where you live. The average commute in the U.S. is 26 minutes, according to Census data. LA does have notoriously horrible commutes, but two hours one way sounds ridiculous even for LA (although apparently not unheard of). 3-4 hours per day in traffic meant I lost 15-20 hours of non-work time each week or a week each month. We looked at some houses that would make my commute 45-60 minutes and keep my husbands average about the same or a little longer, and although we really liked them, we had to pass. The average daily commute in the U.S. is about 25 minutes. When they were first married, my parents lived in LA. At my old job I lived almost exactly 18 miles from my office. My commute is similar to Hannahs and yes, it is faster to cycle, so I do when the weather is good! I hope you can find something with a reasonable commute (2 hours is not, imo). I get up at 4 a.m., go to the gym to beat traffic, get home at 7:30-8 p.m. and am in bed by 9 so I dont fall asleep at the wheel. Traffic in Southern California is just a fact of life. For some fellow locals, its a major stressor but it doesnt bother me much. I put >30,000 miles on it in those first two years. That said, in OC and some parts of LA county, it is entirely possible to work minutes away from your residence, or find alternate routes, or work non-peak traffic hours. Im not sure what you think Im suggesting, but just to be extra clear: I understand Southern California traffic is bananas. Im so sorry, OP. Its absolutely aggravating and I do not think I can keep this up much longer. Especially if you want to leave by 5:30am in order to beat the traffic. There are NO single family houses for sale for under a million anymore. Get a budget card and park m deck. 2 to 2.5 hour commutes are long even by our standards, but not unheard of. After this long of doing that drive, I am very resentful of losing those 2-2.5 hours of my life five or more days a week. Im pretty sure I could walk three miles in an hour. Good luck! Mrs. Coach Taylor Wait, I live in Bernal Heights and work in San Mateo! Thankfully, he likes to listen to podcasts and audio books, so he wont mind as much (I cant listen to them 30 seconds in, and my mind wanders and I miss the whole thing). . Serious questionI have never ridden light rail in San Francisco but have in a number of other cities, and Im having trouble seeing how this is possible. (And I agree!). People are busy going about their own lives no matter whether youre in South Central or Wilshire Blvd. LA is ok to visit, but I will never live there again. Picking Up Three Kids At Two Different Locations In Provo Twice Week. Hour commute, though? I took it just to go visit someone. Palo Alto to Berkeley during off-hours takes about 45 minutes. Double-win! Or alternatively, find another job with less of an arduous commute? LA traffic is just brutal. It is definitely helping me tackle my to-read pile of books! Brea, Yorba Linda and Anaheim Hills just have freeways. I hit a raccoon, squirrel, snake and deer with my car. why should employers care about my long commute? I have commuted about 40 min each way of straight highway driving in the reverse commute and it was just fine, almost relaxing. The university was 45 miles away so of course it should take about an hour to get there. Wow, 150+ comments and no one suggests using the Waze app? Same! Like the OP, Im a former New Yorker, and my 45-minute subway or bus commute felt like nothing because I didnt have to be so engaged. My commute is 7 minutes from door to door. But oh man, it was like Saturday traffic in the suburb I live in. OC or LB for me! Just dropping in here to say that 45 minutes is astonishing for when you were living in New York. I used to live in Hollywood and Im on the freeway 3-4 hours daily. This is the price of living and working in Silicon Valley. Sadly, given the insane cost of housing in the areas where the jobs are, this is more and more common. The only time Ive ever gotten stuck in traffic in my commute is when theres a wreck, and everyone decides to exit in one lump. They both decided that we should get off the highway and go the backroads, which, of course, was probably one of the worst neighborhoods and were driving a rented Camaro convertible. And Id complain about my commute from West Hollywood (On Palm @ Santa Monica Blvd) to Beverly Hills (Doheny @ Wilshire). I have lived in LA and currently live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and a commute like that is normal here too. I like my job a LOT less, but I have my sanity back. My average drive time is between 50 and 90 minutes each way for 15 miles. You get used to it. :-) Besides, I commute with my husband and we keep each other company during the drive. I have a 20 minute commute by public transit, so if I get off on time, evenings can be used for dates, hanging out with friends or running work outs. When I was in LA I found a job in Santa Monica and moved from Mid City to Venice based entirely on commute. That would be my version of Hell on earth. I have friends who live in Orange County and have two hour commutes each way. And I even think of Castro Valley as far, but thats not too bad in the grand scheme of things. OK, I realize this is coming at the end of a loooong thread, but this all simultaneously made me weirdly homesick (Bay Area native) AND thinking about The Californians sketch on SNL and how true it is, Get on the 405 and never come back, Steeeewarrrrt!. When I lived in DC it took me 50 minutes to drive 11 miles from Alexandria to downtown. Someone mentioned Santa Monica above you would be hard pressed to find a 1-bedroom apartment for under $2000 a month. On not so good days (every day except Mondays), its more like 2-2.5 hours. If there was a better transit system in my area, I would be okay with a long commute, but Im from Seattle. I would find 2 hours each untenable, and thats okay! If I couldnt stand it Id sometimes pull into the metered lots at the cliffs of HB and go for a walk on the beach or a swim. People in my tiny, rural hometown thought she was crazy. Oh man, try working here in a developing nation in Asia like Thailand, Indonesia, and the Philippines and youll realize just how fortunate you guys are. 1.5 hours each way. Ive been fortunate in seeking work close to public transit. (I take her and pick her up most days.) yeah crossing the 405 definitely deserves mention. heres some free help preparing for job interviews. Best of luck in finding a solution! I lived and worked in L.A. in the 80s, and I spent 60 minutes driving each way. To live closer to work, my mortgage would double, my house would shrink by half, and my utilities would triple (the county where I work is REALLY poorly run). Old job was against traffic, current one iskind of across it. My sister used to do Pomona to Glendale, but she luckily had an early start. I have lots of friends who dont mind traffic and are willing to siting in it for 1-2 hours each way a day to work at jobs they love. Yeah, seriously. If you spend 4 hours commuting five days a week, it will wear on you eventually. Doesnt LA have any kind of train/rail system? To answer your overall question, you can be successful with strength training 2x/wk, but it will come down to how structured your programming is in terms of volume, repetition, intensity, and progressive overload. Its a 25-30 minute ride. For me, my 52 minute commute was extended to 1 hour 15 minutes anytime school was in session. More often than not I'd be home in 25 minutes and most days I spent less than an hour in the car. *scratching LA off the list of cities I could move to*. You might still be spending 2 hours but at least you can read or play a game or something. I would say DO NOT DO IT, unless you can't afford not to. 5546 (c)). General comment, not intending to Monday morning quarterback the LW: doing a test run of the commute before accepting a job is really, really helpful if you can manage it. I ultimately made the decision, about a day after I sent the letter and sat in traffic for 2+ hours, to quit next week as my 3-month probation period is almost over, I have a scheduled review and I dont want to lead the company on. I live in a tiny town so my commute is 5 minutes driving (allow 10 minutes door-to-door). Theres no bus/transit that does a straight line between home and work, so I either have to take one bus into downtown then switch to another to get to Soma, or take a bus downtown then walk 20 minutes. I know its somewhat stupid but yeah. I know someone who used to bike from Venice to Union Station, then take light rail up to South Pasadena. Google maps will give you a range for your route at different times of the day. My current commute is about an hour but most of it is by train. LA resident here, though Im a transplant from Chicago. The average commute keeps getting LONGER. My manager flies in from another state one week out of the month. (And then for 2 more yrs, it was only an hr each way.) I know this is kinda tangential to the question, but I just dont understand how this happens and how its so consistently bad. With the right game plan, "mega-commuters" can improve their daily journey. Most of my coworkers that live on the North/South Shore of Boston commute around that far. My wife had a 90-120 minute commute for a year and change and it was almost unbearable. Im actually surprised more people dont pursue the option we are, though, because theres really nothing job-wise if youre not a professor or student out where he is. Coming home, though, was awful. 4 Unsexy One-Minute Habits That Save Me 30+ Hours Every Week. If any of those were different, Id change jobs or areas for a better commute. But yeah, two hours isnt unheard of for any of those cities. Ultimately I think the question for you is not whats normal for your region, but what feels doable and sustainable for you in the long-term. Ehhh, no, I think its valid for the boyfriend to point out that a 2-hour commute is often normal in LA and the surrounding areas. All rights reserved. We had a store manager for a while that worked in Irvine and lived in Hemet (because thats the closest he could afford to buy a house), and spent at least six hours per day driving, sometimes more. If not, find another job. On a bad day 2 hours. But, thats because I work 7-3 or 3:30 and get in about 6:30-6:45. No one can afford to live where the jobs are, so you move farther out and compensate with an insane commute. It would be unsustainable for a LOT of people. A good rule-of-thumb for LA is every 10 miles will take roughly 30-45 minutes of travel time. https://urbanize.la/post/metro-considers-temporary-shutdown-and-rebuild-blue-line. For context, Im in the DC area and my commute door to door is roughly an hour on mass transit. I will be living at home. Totally do-able (especially when I worked east of Sepulveda and took Laurel Canyon). If this job allows you the finances/time to travel, do things you love then its something you have to take into account. Yes, this. I mean, Im screaming inside and my commute is regularly an hour and a half! It can easily fudge up to 45+ minutes if Mr. Town and I carpool and we decide to stop for breakfast. Plus I saved so much money not driving and just listened to music and enjoyed my coffee. I remember days it took over an hour of just sitting on Westlake to Mercer to the 5. But Im absolutely gobsmacked to see 26 minutesthats far outside the norm for anyone Ive ever even been friends with in the US. my commute could be as short as 20 minutesat midnight when no one else was driving. The time of day changes whether a neighborhood or block is busy or echoingly empty, whether the subway is packed with commuters, sports fans, tourists, or concert goers, or if its spooky with just you and some person that could be coming back from a casting call for vampires. New Yorkers have the longest commute 38 minutes, which is six minutes longer than the average commute time in Chicago. Your response seems fairly normal (and not at all stupid!) Well done. Traffic has been getting worse over the last few years, and I tell myself if the drive ever hit 1.5 hours, Id start looking for another job somewhere closer, but the truth is I probably wouldnt. Im not surprised that it has doubled as of today. )even the drive to school wasnt that bad! Although, when I did commute on public transit the trains were messed up about 80% of the time, which was very frustrating (South West Trains! Its only 12 miles but traffic is pretty bad in my area (and Im only able to do it in this time because I avoid the highway highway traffic could easily double the commute home on a bad day!) For a while, my work commute was about 3 minutes, which was nice, but that was when I was living in Ogden, and commuting to Salt Lake for school, and I hit rush hour going to school, so it was a lot worse. Ive since moved to Minneapolis to be closer to work, and now my commute is an easy 20 minutes door to door. Not to mention the stress of driving in traffic! Obviously its possible. Doing a recomp will also depend massively on your diet and sleep quality. (Luckily co-workers lived in the same street to share cost.) Haha sorry, I meant the personally attacked part as a joke. Im sure they have super low costs though. He works off-hours (starts at 6 am and leaves at 3 pm) so its not bad, but if he does hit traffic staying late it about 45 min-hour. I would sincerely hate this commute. Theres a reason, despite improved public transportation, we love our cars. My husband had a commute that often took an hour or more in the evenings. Im a slight woman, Asian, in my mid twenties and took the train from LB to DTLA for work. Id just say that you should see if you can find a new job before you quit. Excellent point. I hate to sound like an ass about this but the train LB to DTLA goes through all the neighborhoods I dont really feel comfortable going through that early in the morning (Im 51 and look super young despite being 30) esp. I also was going to school at night in Sylmar, so my days wouldve been spent driving and Id have zero life. I couldnt imagine driving that much. I live in Southern MD and commute to College Parkco-sign everything you said! No idea if LA has decent public transit on your route, but you might check into buses, subways, or carpools (the company that operates our buses will try to help put together vanpools that commute to & from the same areas, so check LAs bus website for that if interested). Ive seen absolutely nothing since the dash cam was installed. I walk 1.5 miles to BART instead of taking the muni 4 blocks from my house. Ooooof. In my area, two hours is definitely not normal; however, for the people a little further south of me that commute to NYC, its definitely not unusual. So true! I have a 45 minute commute 1-2 days a week and 10 minutes the rest of the days. I am definitely looking for something closer and started shooting out my resume to 10 miles within LB, and got a few bites already. They moved the office 25 miles out of town, got a pic of my coworker who chose to stay home with the kids. My east coast transplant friends cannot fathom how LA natives do this day in and day out. Also, as some mentioned below, many freeways go through sketchy areas and I would not feel comfortable exiting. Counterintuitively, mid-day is often worse than rush hour because there are more parked cars and often lane closures for construction of one kind or another. If I work 8-5 or 8-4:30, its closer to an hour each way. The commute is about 60-75 minutes with no traffic, but can be upwards of 2 hours in bad traffic. Options: Bike to work, surely you can average 15mph and then you have the added benefit of cutting out the gym. My commute is 2 hours each way because I live outside London on one side, and work in a part of London WAY over on the other side. Its incredibly stupid, a massive waste of personal time and extremely harmful to the environment. Good luck =), Break a leg! My commute to work takes about 30 minutes but going home takes about 45. I go with the flow of traffic in the morning and afternoon. I took it once: it was a two-hour train ride from end to end. Heres what got me through it: -Audiobooks and podcasts (you can get free books through Overdrive and Hoopla with your library card). NOPE NOPE NOPE. 3) Start looking for a new job closer to you (also may not be possible) Im running out of podcasts to binge. The only way I see people make it work is to have jobs you can start really early like be in the office at 6:00 AM and leave work at 2:oo PM. God, I miss LB. Its not so much the miles as the stop and go (or slow and go) traffic. I mean, if you work in a downtown office, you prolly wont be able to afford rent anywhere in that general area. So NYC has that fun going for it. I must drive because theres no transit is a very different problem than, I cant wrap my head around the idea of trying transit.. If I left after 4 it was definitely going to take at least 2-3 hours. When I lived in SF, the 45-minute ride from my apartment into downtown was already pushing it for me. I do leave 30 minutes before my shift starts so I have ample time to drop my son off at school, stop for a caffeinated beverage and get to work with several minutes to spare but my actual in-the-car-driving time is 15 minutes with all of that added in there. But restaurants and shops tend to be located in residential areas so theres always a house just across from them? She thought she was lucky because she only worked 4 days a week. Right, its not just the time, its the type of time. Our combined household income was about 60k; according to sperlings COL calculator itd need to be about 150k to get the same QOL in SF. Its the sheer number of cars in the road. 2 hours is totally normal and expected for a trip like this in rush hour. Thats just over 33 minutes. Im glad youre making a change! Thats why the end of Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Around Chicago, my commute is a 30-40 minute drive from suburb to suburb (Schaumburg/Elgin to Mt. I guess the silver lining is that The commute became too much for me seemed to be a commonly-given reason for leaving a position in Los Angeles, so hopefully interviews will accept that without question. And I think thats totally fair! Do you have any ability to move closer to work? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/21/us/california-today-super-commutes-stockon.html, Link is in moderation, but the article is called California Today: The Rise of the Super Commuter. There was even a Steve Martin movie that involved traffic signs. I live in L.A. and both my husband and my commutes are 35-50 min. In the beginning, he had these super long commutes. I live in the city and work in the FiDi and biked to work on a good day, depending on traffic and lights, I could be from my front door to the office in 10 minutes. My brother has a 50 minute commute, but its on highways and country roads with no traffic, to the next town over. I used to live in a shabby little cinder block house in the desert that a friend of mine dubbed the Serial Killer Shack, but it was cheap AF, 5-6 minutes from a job I loved, and I had no visible neighbors. The difference was really that my commute usually had just a quick moment of traffic right by my office (government office surrounded by lots of other government offices, with thousands of people all leaving at the same time), and his was about 20 miles closer, but stop and go the whole way! Hes not off base saying its normal because it is definitely not unheard of in Southern California. Today's show will cover all the different aspects of remote work. Who knows! On a good day my commute is 90 minutes, on the worst it has been 3.5 hours. So, not unheard of & it happens in all parts of the country, but definitely terrible. And last one and then Ill stop, I swear! We moved, and now Im just a little too far to walk to the Metra stop by my new house. Not worth getting killed. I remember when I magically cut my usual 45 minute commute down to 7 minutes by moving closer. Los Angeles commuter reporting for duty! If you cut your commute time in half (down to 1 hour/day total) and spent that newly freed time (6 hours/w Continue Reading 6 Related questions More answers below How can we stay productive yet working continuously for 16 hours? Ive had several coworkers with 1.5 hour to 2 hour commutes. In that case, subway and bus! I drove, did public transport and frankly, I gave up and moved. I also did the South LA-the Valley commute for grad school. My commute from my bed to my desk is 3 minutes. Good luck, OP! Not quite three years and I missed warm sunny days more than I ever thought would be possible. one hour is my limit for commuting and I managed to make that work (although with a fair amount of compromise along the way). I used to commute on public transit and it took me 1.5 hours (on a good day, 1 hour 10). 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