But what did they actually hear that made them afraid? Its beautiful imagery but youre right, the bible doesnt say this. With that in mind, what makes you say, from the text of Genesis, that the phrase translated cool of the day would be better translated a strong wind? If strong wind is the better translation, when prior to this event did God manifest himself to Adam and Eve in a strong wind in such a way that when they heard the strong wind on this occasion, they knew instantly that it was the sound of God? Fifth, if someone doesn't like the idea that God knew they would be . I agree that youre right to the extent that believers should be mindful to validate sermons, statements or stories from pastors. If youve been impacted by our resources, we invite you to make a year-end gift before December 31. We know that God is Omnipresent. I dont recall a specific instance of this, but since the promised land was repeatedly spoken of as a land flowing with milk and honey, I take that to mean that their flocks would thrive and they would have an abundance of milk (in addition to honey and more). My goal in these types of blog posts is to encourage believers to look carefully at the text. First it should be recognised that Genesis is a seed box if you want details you need to keep reading. Hi Warren, Thank you for your post and your diligence to pursuing Biblical accuracy! You cant see that Leviticus expounds on how to walk with god? 3. Before He came to earth two thousand years ago, Jesus appeared at various times in the Old Testament in a physical form. Weve arrived at a very similar conclusion very recently that Adam and his wife or help-meat very possibly disobeyed their creators command not to eat of the fruit of tree in the midst of the garden the first day they were placed there. Ive heard pastors, speakers, authors, and many other Christians confidently state that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden of Eden. (Genesis 3:8). who knows perhaps it was. It seems so trivial. He created a vast array of angels prior to the creation of man, so theres no guarantee that God spent a bunch of time with Adam and Eve. I had always taken it for granted too that God walked with Adam in the cool of the day which He very well might haveand Id like to use my imagination and believe that He did but the Bible definitely doesnt say that He did. Hi Ralph, The only time we see Eve converse with God in Scripture is after she ate the fruit and hid with Adam among the trees of the garden. It means closeness, intimacy, communion. The untold truth of the Garden of Eden. They probably werent in the garden for very long at allperhaps just a few days to a few weeks. The Bible doesnt say that, and that is the point of the article. With that in mind, I would disagree with you on the reason you give for why God came to the garden that day. Do you think the lord actually cares if pastors are saying Adam and Eve did walk with God? Much like those of us that have the infilling of the Holy Ghost and walk in the Spirit. Thanks for the comments. God fashioned Eve out of Adam's rib (Genesis 2:22). Ive heard far too many people claim, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the cool of the day. Thats simply false. Hi Sam, Then let the land rest on the seventh year right? Hi Robert, Adam and Eve enjoyed a relationship with God, and with each other, that was unhindered by the disruptive power of sin. Maybe He was physically there throughout the short time that they were in the Garden, but I have my doubts., By a plain reading, Genesis 2:7 and 2:22c reasonably are inferred to imply that the place where God formed Adam, and then Eve, was a place some way *outside* of the garden (and this place likely being that of the shore of a river or a sea). God had told them to be fruitful and multiply (Genesis 1:28). 10 He answered, "I heard you in the garden. If you must doubt something, I think you would have to doubt that. As my case shows and many of the comments here show, man created truth is powerful over our minds. The point was to urge Christians to pay closer attention to the text of Scripture. I think your criticism of my article misses the mark. But there is no need to make the text outright say something it does not, in fact, outright say. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked, so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves. In each case, they are basing their ideas on something that isnt stated in Scripture. I hear it on a regular basis, and many of my coworkers have said it. when they heard God they hid from Him. If you want to try to build a case for the possibility, thats fine with me too. It is like asserting that, since NO text in the Bible OUTRIGHT affirms that Adam ever saw the stars, then It is unwarranted to assume that he ever did see the stars.. When the Lord made him on the sixth day, He commanded him not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Therefore, it is likely that Adam and Eve had been experiencing close fellowship with the Lord God. Your desire to keep us focused on what the Word actually says is to be commended. IOW, IMV Where Adam FAILED, Christ Jesus PASSED, *Saying all this Tim, I truly respect your thoughts and views as a brother in Christ. Adam & Eve had been very naughty and they were hiding from the Lord!! If they dont walk with him no blessing no rain no food and punishment 7 times more. Totally agree with you to know that not everything was told to us, but take what we are told and use it for good, not for argument. No sowing or reaping for 3 years! One has still As I mentioned in the post, even if He walked through the Garden to speak to Adam and Eve it would not prove that they used to take walks with Him. It would be far better to use a supporting argument that has a strong biblical basis. This post isnt about whether they enjoyed fellowship with Him prior to sin and walked with Him in a metaphorical sense. To say that life was good in the Garden of Eden would be an understatement. They consisted of both physical and spiritual components, just like all of their descendants, although originally they were without sin. Maybe it is written somewhere else in other ancient writings? I worship in His presence and put off His presence! We know that the Israelites did eat some of their animals during the year. . The animals possess none of these characteristics, at least not to the same degree as man, so these seem like strong possibilities for what it means to be made in Gods image. You read that correctly, the Bible never states that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden. To add to the post above, another theological consideration is the temple. The Lord God Walking in the Garden. I hope this clarifies my objective in the post. Haha very eye opening. You cant see that god desires to walk with his people and expects rhem to walk with him? So there minds were NOT YET CORRUPTED until God ALLOWED there FREE WILL to be tested, just as the Father through the Holy Spirit ALLOWED Christ Jesus to be tested in the wilderness. 2. 9 The Lord God called to the man and asked him, "Where are you?". 12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned. But as seasoned believers we need to understand it is better to use our hearts to hear the sermons the pastors preach rather than the details of the text. Conclusion. It is definitely possible that the person in the Garden was the preincarnate Christ. Adam was ashamed to stand before God as he was now a sinner who was about to face his righteous God. God formed Adam from the dust and breathed His own life into the man (Genesis 2:7). The adverbial phrase in the cool of the day (NIV, NASB, NJB) or the breezy time of the day (NJPS, NAB) translates the Hebrew phrase wind [rah] of the day. The NRSVs rendering makes the time more explicit, at the time of the evening breeze (also REB). I dont think it was a mystery to themat least not completely. September 13, 2019. Well, Jesus wasn't there with Adam and Eve in the beginning. Gen 18 - Abraham's discussion and bargaining with the LORD (YHWH) Ex 3 - Moses at the burning bush. Adam doesnt need to know instantly that it is God moving about, but once God speaks to Him (whether out of a whirlwind or appearing in human form or any other form) then Adam recognizes who is addressing Him. Tim> However, that fact has very little to do with whether He walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the gardenThe divine Being appeared in the same manner as formerlyuttering the well-known tones of kindness, walking in some visible form (not running hastily, as one impelled by the influence of angry feelings). To your third point (in the next post), I think the temple imagery is overdone a bit in modern times. In fact, they didn't even know what want and longing were! The children of Israel had a great amount of lifestock during the time of their exodus. But your claim is based on only such a narrow standard. The main point of this entire post is to encourage Christians to look closely at Scripture, so that they will stop saying, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God or something very similar. Adam and Eve and God literally walking next to each other in perfect harmony. Due to the craftiness of the serpent, sin found its way into the Garden and everything fell apart. That would be what we today would consider a lifetime of experiencing Gods faithfulness and guidance, only to throw it away in a single day! Privacy Policy. I too feel in my sosirt that God did not walk physically. Thanks for taking the time to read the blog post and for your kind words. Thank you for your thoughts I do understand the whirlwind , but Gen says God made them clothes from an animal to replace mans attempt of covering his nakedness. Adam and Eve obeyed God. Since the Bible doesnt make this claim, its impossible to know for sure where people get the idea from. It says that he went to the land of Nod and then she conceived a son (Enoch). Hi Tim you stated; How many pastors and other teachers have taught that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden? Im not saying this is true, Im just pointing out that scripture does not say skins of animals or that God killed animals to clothe them. In that claim, I put your OWN verbatim in single quotes. The Hebrew Bible depicts Adam and Eve as walking around the Garden of Eden naked due to their sinlessness. Therefore God was not always with them in the Garden, not as we know it anyway. Walking with god is living with god he makes it very clear how we are to walk with him. Adam and Eve got to literally hang out with God all day long, face to face. I think too many people are confused about what it means that something is directly stated, or implied, or that we might infer, etc. And in Genesis 3:10 Adam heard that familiar sound (be it foot steps, voice, wind or otherwise) & hid. Hi Robert, Genesis 2:19 No human can view the full reality of God and . I know you didnt use the word constant but thats sort of the point in my article. Man, this helped challenge me to really read through the scriptures on this topic. In other words, human beings were made to reflect Gods gloryto show the world what God is likethrough who we are and what we do. So I will get rid of the statement being discussed here. The Lord can speak out of it and He can perform any other functions, such as making coats of skins, while in that form. 30? Genesis 3:8. Hi Ed, So no, I will not take down this post or apologize for it, unless you can actually show me where the Bible says that they did walk with God. That's why he was walking in the garden: he wanted to meet with Adam and Eve and spend time with them. Hi Tim, Adam and Eve loved to . It would be accurate if the point of my article was to claim that Adam and Eve did not walk with God in the Garden prior to sin. If strong wind is a better translation, then it would not be saying that God was walking in the garden, but instated that He was moving in the garden. Its not hard at all to see that Adams and Eves sins broke the right standing they had with God. Tim please do a small word study on walking and when you do you will find that walking refers to a living relationship with the said persons mentioned . Genesis 3:8 KJV. God must have schooled him in his new surroundings. And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.". 2 keep my sabbaths and reverence my sanctuary.3 IF YOU WALK IN MY STATUTES AND KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS AND DO THEM 4 then I will give you rain in due season and the land shall give her increase and the trees of the field shall yield there fruit. But arguments from silence are not strong arguments to build a positive case for something. Since they were both born in Genesis 4 (after the expulsion from the Garden), they didnt necessarily have to be 120+ by the year Seth was born. See my article, Was Jesus Married? One of my Bible study ladies commented about the command to not eat of the fruit lest they die as possibly being a mystery to Adam and his wife. 4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, when the Lord God made the earth and the heavens. I know this article about Adam and Eve walking with God in the Garden is over 6 years old, but I just now discovered it. Lord God (Jesus) walked among Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. There are many others that could be added to this list but this illustrates . #1 Eve "saw" that the tree was good for food. They were created pre-programmed by God. Genesis 3:21 comes after Genesis 3:7, in which Adam and Eve ate from the Tree and realized they were naked. They are not taking a leisurely stroll with God, they are hiding from Him as He comes to announce His judgment. If you want to believe they did, thats totally fine with me. Other Biblical accounts clearly show this - as it is God who speaks with, walks with, and assist humans to discover His nature and His love. Here is a link to the Wikicommons page showing that this illustration is in the public domain: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png. I went to church this past Sunday and my pastor who is pretty good with the Word of God and quick to say if he is wrong said he had a revelation thats god ohyically walked with Adam and Eve and as he spoke my discernment clearly was NO THIS DID NOT HAPPEN. Adam's spiritual life, through fellowship with God, depended on Adam's respect for God's laws. Well, in Genesis 2, Adam names the animals, and the only words quoted from him in Gen. 2 have to do with what he said when he met Eve: This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh (Genesis 2:23). They were to work the land 6 years right? These factors make Adam, and subsequently Eve who was taken out of the man Adam, uniquely designed to perceive the presence of God, and descern His will. 6398. It says, "they heard the sound of God walking in the garden", and, " they hid themselves from the presence of the Lord. You can see from the above that God decreed several things for Adam to honour and obey. 00:00. They could not walk in the garden naked anymore, and they had to defend their actions. I think that would be fantastic. But I am very clear in the post that I have no problem with the notion that they might have walked with Him. We know that God was with Adam and Eve at all times and wherever they were. Thanks for reading. They walked and talked with God. Did you notice something else about the way people typically define the image of God? They may have walked with Him prior to the Fall, but it just doesnt say that. However, that story or statement being preached wont cause anyone to fall into sin. So what did they hear in the Garden? Adam tried to put the blame on Eve, and Eve tried to put the blame on the serpent, but God was angry with all three of them! Hello Tim, I honestly do not understand why you are so hellbent on trying to make a point of saying that Adam and Eve did not walk with God? Hi Bob, is not an accurate analogy. The natural connotation, to me, is that God often did this, perhaps daily in the cool of the day, but what was remarkable this time was that man was afraid, because he had sinned. Even if this translation is accurate, which is debatable, it does not say that they walked with God. How do your children know how to live? Required fields are marked *. We "Walk With God" in Meditating upon His Word. This walking refers to living a life that pleases God. Anyway, Im very surprised I forgot to include a link to an article on theophanies that I wrote for Answers in Genesis. I have a problem with Christians continually repeating that the Bible says they walked with God in the garden because it doesnt say that. !NOW YOU CAN TAKE THIS LIE DOWN FOR GOOD ,,,THANK YOU !!!!STEVI. But thats not at all what is going on here. Can you show me some similar articles? I have no problem with the concept of Adam and Eve walking with God and seeing Him. If I give full and clear credit to you with a link to your illustration Adam-Eve-Shame as follows: http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?attachment_id=1350. God told them to be fruitful and multiply. Gods presence is also noted by his walking in the camp and sanctuary of Israel. Genesis 3:8, CSB: Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden at the time of the evening breeze, and they hid from the Lord God . Can a whirlwind fulfill those processes? Thanks for caring about biblical accuracy. Adam & Eve hid themselves from God. The ESV accurately captures Adams response in verse 10. No one is perfect, but when you are walking with God your desire should be to see your own selfish desires die for the sake of seeing God transform you more and more into the image of His Son: "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. I hope you will continue in the pursuit of God's Truth. I know when I say that Adam walked with God in the Garden, I mean to say that God spent time with them, not literally walking in the garden, God doesnt walk, He is Spirit! Adam and Eve heard the voice of God walking in the cool of the day.Read the KJV plus many other versions point to the fact that they walked with the voice of God. Some people have inferred from this statement that they must have known what it sounded like to hear God walk in the Garden so they must have walked with Him before. Genesis 3:8 Context. While its true they could have been over 120 years old when Cain killed Abel, they also could have been any age from very young up to 120+. Daniel, God called (using a Hebrew word that also means "to summon") Adam to face . (Meditating upon God's Word makes it a consistent part of our daily . Yes, I do understand that God desires relationship with His peopleto walk with them as they walk with Him. But there is so much more to the story. The idea of God openly talking and physically walking with Adam and Eve is that God is interested in humans and want to develop a close friendship with them. It is possible that God literally walked in the Garden of Eden in the form of a human. However, most people inevitably mention . It bothers me that I have believed the Bible stated this, and that I have told other people it says this for so long, and I have read the first three chapters of Genesis so many times. Surely, He wouldve given them the ability to do that right from the start. may I use your illustration in a short story that I will submit for publication on a non-commercial website (perhaps only my own personal website, if I cannot find acceptance at a more widely viewed site)? I dont really hear anyone saying, The Bible says Adam and Eve never walked with God in the garden, but if I did, then Id correct that as well. http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1349, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png, https://answersingenesis.org/jesus-christ/incarnation/theophanies-in-the-old-testament/, https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/cains-wife-who-was-she/, http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1747. It is possible that the Lord taught them how to do certain things, as you say, but it certainly wasnt necessary. So what if he didnt say the words in genesis one would think you would be wise enough to figure it out its not hard. I happened on this post because the thought came to my mind that God only walked with Adam, not EveI do not know why I had the thought, and I had not checked Gods Holy Word on the issue, but I read your article which partly validated my thought in an unexpected way. Hi Nucc, god wanted to walk (live) with them in an ongoing and fruitful relationship and the whole book of Leviticus shows them how to correctly walk with god. It is also the case that Adam and Eve had been commanded by God to "be fruitful and multiply, and fill the Earth" (Genesis 1:28). Thanks for reading! I can see that they heard either a sound or a voice. Its the generous support of our ministry partners that enables us to continue our eternity-shaping work. 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, >>>>>and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. The reasoning for this conclusion may make more sense in the next post on Cain and Abel. Genesis 3:8 KJV. Perhaps some people may have this figurative sense in mind when they speak of our first parents walking with God. Noah walked with God Genesis 6:9. They were placed in the Garden of Eden and given everything they needed: food, work, companionship, and fellowship with God as they walked with him in the cool of the day (Genesis 3:8). To use your example, it would be like if people repeatedly said, The Bible says Adam watched the stars every night while in the Garden. Even if he did do that, the Bible doesnt say that he did, and it would be worth correcting someone on that point. The term used to explain this and other episodes is anthropomorphism (human-forms). And God created a new animal to be a companion for Adam and Eve. The problem with this claim is that youll never find a Bible verse that teaches it. Who is this that would kill him? Finally, there are many who use the idea of Adam and Eve actually walking with God to stress the theological point of mans closeness to God prior to sin in order to contrast that with mans lost condition after sin. And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. Would that seem that they must have heard His voice at some other time. I dont have a problem with people thinking that Adam and Eve walked with God (as I stated, they may have), but I want people to realize that the Bible doesnt say that they did. Part of the commission to rule over creation would have included the need to study it and figure things out. Far too often, we allow traditions, even seemingly innocent ones, to become the basis for our understanding of Scripture. This could be literally translated "the wind of that day." Some think this might refer to a strong wind. Adam (perhaps Eve too) was familiar with Gods presence. After all, they had not experienced or seen death as of yet. I think this point has to be acknowledged regardless of whether you think the sound is God walking in the cool of day or God manifesting himself in a strong wind. Tim, thank you for your commentary. God appointed angels to guard the way back (Genesis 3:23-24). Perhaps you should take a moment to read the blog post before commenting. Now turn to Chapter 4 of Genesis verse 13 Cain said to the Lord, My punishment is more than I can bear. He was given power and authority by Father God to create the universe and all life within it. With that being said, I agree with you that it is reasonable to infer that He spent time with them, but the Bible does not imply that He did, and that was the point of this post. They hide among the trees. God told them, "You may eat fruit from any tree, except one. God then created Eve, "a helper comparable to him" (verse 18). Why would God spend time with them, because He loved them and wanted to share His love with them! 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