On July 14, 1980, he would pitch his final major league game. HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. This speed was measured using a radar gun and a high-speed camera. He set a new record for strikeouts in a game with 18. Ask any pitcher who loses a mile off their fastball, and they'll tell you how much easier it is for batters to square up on them at the lower speed. Josh Bennett from Illinois on May 31, 2014: He is special for sure. The University of Cincinnati! Average Pitching Velocity. Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on June 11, 2019: Thanks very much! Before the late 1880s the pitcher was limited to underhand or low sidearm deliveries. I don't believe they threw, on average, as hard as pitchers throw today. He was absolutely unbelievable and one of a very few where you expected to see a No-hitter every time he pitched. I'm so freaking starved for baseball right now. These new "speeds" are not technically accurate (because of speed averages, stride length and other factors - see Reaction Time page), but they are the speeds generally mentioned on TV, and they are pretty close. You are allowed to follow me too, if you wish. Nobody in the major leagues has thrown more than 160 pitches in a game since the day Randy Johnson struck out 18 Texas Rangers in 1992. We'll never know since there are no accurate radar records until ~50 years ago, but probably about 5 MPH less than they do now. All except below are based on radar readings by the editor. In 1998, Lima matched this speed while playing for the Dodgers. So even though it was recorded at 100 yards, it was actually 0.2 mph faster than what is considered to be legal ball speed. I saw Verlander hitting 99 mph last season. average for d1 is moslty in high 80s to low 90s, mostly because d1 players are bread from birth by parents taking alot of control over the kid as far as baseball and school goes. I was fortunate enough to grow up in Burbank, CA and was 9 years old when the Dodgers moved to LA. Division 1: 63 MPH or faster. You ain't supposed to be writin' a baseball hub before me :-) I'm watchin' pre season and World BB Classic on MLB today. Gerrit Cole's approach bringing Cy Young results, Mookie Betts vs. Bryce Harper -- and other pressing baseball debates, Real or not? Real or Not? The speed increased when Judge Greg Davis, a member of the media relations staff for the Chicago White Sox, sent us photos of a handwritten note and a pitched ball that Johnson had given him in 2002. I'm not sure the weight of a baseball? As for other hard numbers for those days: two hours and 15 minutes was considered an ordinary game back then. MLB has gone back and recalibrated Pitch/FX pitches to convert them to their velocity at pitch release. Now it is pretty obvious, with all the years and thousands of players to have played major league baseball, that I've left out some very relevant names, faces, and statistics. In high school, how fast should girls be throwing to be the most competitive? The rise and fall of J.R. Richard is not a pretty tale. But his fastball had movement. If you haven't seen it there is an excellent documentary on Netflix called "Fastball." jbennett3112 - I started watching MLB in 1986. They wait to air it out and they don't have to worry about their arms so much since they're not looking at nine innings, just one or two. . The pitcher's size is not significant. but in all ive seen 90s in d2 and d3 schools, d2 around here (florida) usually depends on school but mostly in the 80s. However, Major League Baseball officially considers that pitch to be a 105.8 mph fastball. Now they have 60 due to expanded ballparks and/or alternate site games being played away from home. Does Camera Blur Equal Increased Bat Speed? Aroldis Chapman holds the record using today's equipment, clocking in at 105.1 mph. Nolan was always my fave too - even though I never watched or liked baseball until 1986, when I was 12 years old. The average fastball is between 50-60 mph for a pitcher in the Majors division of Little League (11-13 yo). Answer: There probably is one, but you would likely need to dig through at least the first 3 pages of Google's search results to find the most comprehensive one. Sanjay Sharma from Mandi (HP) India on June 27, 2018: Thanks for sharing the catalog of great masters. Go baseball (except the Cardinals, fuck them :-) Good hub, I've gotten to see some of those guys pitch. Division 2: 58 MPH or faster. A 94 mph pitch on the Stalker Pro registered as 95 on the Stalker Pro II. Chart showing the average range of speed for each baseball pitch type by age group. I enjoyed it very much. Age. We need your support to make FanGraphs sustainable so you can continue to enjoy all of the stats and tools you've come to rely on, like The . Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. Thing isback in the days heck, even in the early 70's there just weren't many relievers, as everyone tended to just count on the starter going deep into the game, or pitching a complete game. There was a game once where Nolan Ryan threw nearly three hundred pitchesbut probably that isn't the most in a game - I doubt they always kept track of how many pitches a pitcher threw. Some nice baseball history. Current world-class pitchers such as Mark Buehrle, Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Josh Beckett, and Jake Peavy can reach back and toss a pitch 100 mph. ", If this is your first visit, be sure to Also Pinning. This is great stuff. Relief pitching is now a field all its own. What's the average speed of a baseball swing? It was against the Angels in Anaheim, CA. Junior College softball: min 54 mph. I suppose it's fair to include relievers, but I think the starters who had to pace themselves for a whole game deserve the lion's share of credit. A Major League fastball averaged 93.7 miles per hour in 2020. He started well and strong but left in the fourth inning due to complaints of blurry vision and numbness in his fingers. Last year he got the AA record can't remember the exact # but it was well over 100. One other thing to remember. Walter Johnson, the only pitcher to record over 400 wins and 3,500 strikeouts. swinging strike, the fastball (on average) is the worst pitch for the job. Average fastball speed (mph): 95.4. check out the. Greatest pro athlete ever? A swing of 20.5 mph produces a baseball speed of 62.0 mph. The man who'd been sent to scout Feller had the following to say, "This was a kid pitcher I had to get. Diamondbacks primed to bury Dodgers, Losing Corey Seager leaves Dodgers' season on the brink. I was their when the Angels retired his number and also just about every time he pitched against them in Anaheim. In contrast, the speeds of a change-up pitch and a slider were about 70 to 85 mph. Fastball Velocity by Age Looking at fastball velocity, we see more curvature to the aging curve than we saw with bat speed. He is a switch hitter. He was TALL, LEAN and MEAN. The Reds selected him second overall in the 2017 MLB Draft.. Born in Los Angeles, California, Greene learned how to pitch at the Major League Baseball Urban Youth Academy in Compton.His fastball velocity was already 93 mph (150 . Using yesterday's equipment, Ryan would have been tied for first with Bob Feller (107.4 mph). In the 1980s, players hit 40 home runs just 13 timesthe lowest of any decade since Babe Ruth revolutionized the game. He also threw from a three-quarter position rather than straight over the topif you were you a left-handed hitter, every pitch would seem aimed at your head. It's that simple. At 15 years, it is obvious that a kid cannot throw the ball with the full throttle needed. WWII sure screwed it up somebut made the stats more interesting! It's pretty certain Sandy Koufax could throw that hard too - I remember reading that when he came up he was known for a monster fastball, but he couldn't find the strike zoneand after a while someone convinced him to take something off of itand there you go - someone who was the equal of Bob Feller and Nolan Ryan for many a season! Feller demanded to see the front line. Ted had retired fairly young and was still likely able to compete at the major league level. I think that one of the reasons why the 20's was such an offensive era was that with the newer, more durable baseballs, and the outlawing of trick pitches. I was more a Dodgers fan but lived closer to the Big A and went there more often. I'm excited for the new season. They each pitched at least one inning at 100 mph or faster. People forget that Champman was a starter still throwing 100 mph late in the games in Cuba. Question, Comment, Feedback, or Correction? His slider was 96mph! He wasn't feeling as strong and powerful as he was used to and his complaints and requests for examination were either ignored entirely, brushed off with derision, or just given a perfunctory look. It was determined Feller's pitch traveled 98.6 miles per hour. Fastball velocity is on the rise. Let's take a look at them: Division 1 softball: min 63 mph. 11 and 12 Year Olds Pitchers in this age group are playing in the Majors division in Little League. I face both Ryan and Dalkowski and it wasn't close. It's always sad to me to see how so many come and gopeople like Kerry Woodand he's an example of someone who's arm was supposedly damaged by too many pitches in a game. Later when he came to the Texas Rangers I got to see him pitch in person at the old Arlington stadium a few times. I'm the type who wishes he could watch old baseball games from years ago. You can find all of our 2023 prospect rankings and scouting reports here. * Click on a player to see more information about their specific events including videos of plays if available. efastball.com - hitting and pitching fact checker. However, as a black man, he surely did suffer some discrimination down in Houston, Texas, a town where he ought to have been more loved and appreciated for what he brought there. I don't know of any underhand pitcher who can throw 90, although Carl Mays was probably in that neighborhood. On Sept. 24, 2010, Aroldis Chapman threw the fastest recorded pitch in major league history. Percentage of fastballs thrown: 62%. Hope all is well. Nolan Ryan's next to last start was not at home in Arlington Stadium. Every year between those three, El Toro was in the top four (18 in 1982 / 2nd, 9 in 1983 / 4th, 12 in 1984 / 2nd, 14 in 1985 / 2nd). The #1-#3 pitchers were all between 78-80. . Nice move by Kevin Kennedy when took him out after he threw his warm up pitches in the bottom of the 7th. I gotta' stop man, it's your fault though. According to University of Illinois physicist Dr. Alan Nathan, a pitch that leaves a pitchers hand at 100 mph will (at sea level) slow down by 9 to 10% by the time it crosses the plate some 55-58 feet later. but a cricket ball, at five and a half ounces, and hard as a stone (give or take the leather skin), is not something to stop with your body! Ernie Banks said Sandy's breaking pitches had more spin than anyone else's. Wesman Todd Shaw (author) from Kaufman, Texas on March 03, 2013: Hey Paraglider! While that seems minor, it's actually an enormous boost over time. The AL East is setting up as a race for the ages, Albert Pujols' push for 3,000 powered by dominant decade, 'Ich-i-ro! Total Zone Rating and initial framework for Wins above Replacement calculations provided by Sean Smith. Average Velocity Difference: 3.48 mph Standard Deviation: 1.67 mph Maximum: 6.8 mph - Shelby Miller Minimum: 0.6 mph - Kyle Hendricks Range: 6.2 mph As cutters are basically sliders that break. He served as a gunner on the USS Alabama, participating in major military battles between the Allied forces and Imperial Japan. It takes immense athletic skill and determination to make it into the major leagues, but some people have skills that seem superhuman, and the ability to throw a ball at 100 mph is certainly an impressive one. Today's pitchers can reach up to 95 mph on their fastest pitches! I am also looking forward to the season getting underway. Shared etc, loved it! I can't even express how happy I was when the Rangers got him, as I don't live too far out of Dallas - and I was there at his second to last MLB start, he was 46 years old, throwing regular 96 mph fastballs, and his cureveball was devastating. For decades, comparing pitch velocities has often been an apples-and-oranges discussion. Nolan Ryan was a bit before my time, but I agree that Clemens was special as well with his velocity, but i haven't seen anyone like Verlander or Champan (or Zumaya for that matter). Great to know the human prowess and crossing the barriers. He also finished second six other times. Show #2-10. Back then, no one could touch 100 mph. The Houston television media apologized repeatedly for having questioned whether or not he was truly ill. This Month in Sports ReferenceFind out when we add a feature or make a change. http://ugoprobaseball.com/discount/ My Pitching Programhttp://www.maddenbaseball.com Join the Free NewsletterHere's a video I made on the average pitching . He was placed on the 21-day disabled list. I never knew his story before now. 26 years old is the best age for top velocity through an MLB career. Whats the average speed thrown in the pros? His fastball wasn't even his best pitch. Ok, pre war pitchers were not throwing hard, is it safe to say that because pitchers were not throwing hard then, Ruth took advantage of it? In addition to Chapman, three other pitchers have thrown a perfect game: Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson, and Jim Bunning. I thought the story of Dalkoswki was very poignant - to have that kind of heat and talent and never make it to the show! Despite being selected as starting pitcher for that year's All-star game, he'd soon complain of having a dead arm. His season record of 383 strikeouts and his six seasons with more than 300 strikeouts are also very telling. I ran this calculation for every pitcher in baseball. It is the fascinating power that these rare and gifted men hold that is so intriguing. Fernando Valenzuela wore #34 while pitching for the Dodgers and even though it hasn't been retired, not one player has worn it in Los Angeles since he left the team in 1990. Randall David "Randy" Johnson (born September 10, 1963), nicknamed "The Big Unit," stood at 6'10". Pitchers are throwing harder than ever. From 1976 to 1980, only two other pitchers in all of baseball could compare to him, Steve Carlton and Nolan Ryan. This hub is a homerun!!! However, the fastball speed curve looks suspiciously like a graph of temperature. It's the game itself, and the development of the players which excites me. Many thanks to him. I think I saw him against the Dodgers when he was with Houston early 80s. There is a lot of variation in the data, with some players throwing much faster or slower than this range. The 1980 season started well for Richard and he had Nolan Ryan on the team with himproviding the Houston Astros with the two most powerful right-handed flame throwers in all of baseball. Answer: I'm sure he could. Nolan Ryan, in my opinionhad that combination of freakishly terrific genetics, and the added virtue of working his butt off to play as long as he possibly could! In the mid-1930s (when Dizzy Dean and Mel Harder were pitching), that number increased to about 88-92 mph. Major League Baseball's average velocity is much more accurate and much easier to track down than other levels of baseball because every pitch thrown in a season is recorded by their Statcast system. 10. I just sent you a PM. Its hard to believe but he did, asserted Earl Weaver, who watched Nolan Ryan pitch dozens of times, and managed Dalkowski. Ken Taub from Long Island, NY on March 03, 2013: Great overview of the greatest pitchers, Wes. Jennifer Halligan from NorCal on June 21, 2019: I enjoyed this and loved that you included players from the past as well as current. If we're discussing who can throw the hardest, then why leave the relievers for last? Ted Williams, often considered the greatest hitter who ever played the game, once faced Dalkowski in a minor league warm-up. I thought that even the top power pitchers of the 1920s and '30s -- again, before Feller -- topped out around 90 miles an hour. Voted up and sharing with followers and on Facebook. He has been playing sports his whole life and loves to talk about them. No one knows that. torrilynn - Thanks very much! Fastballs we're talkin' here) and Dick Stanley (although, Goose IS a good example. Some little known or unknown ones, include the Forgotten Joe Black, Jackie Robinson's roommate, throwing 102.2 mph in 1953, and Bob Turley possibly throwing 103 mph in 1954. He would never recover from the stroke he had at the age of 30. But I agree, there is Nolan Ryan, and then everyone else. It is no longer news that all form of measurement in softball is taken regarding players' age and the level of the league they play in, The same goes for The fastball velocity. Paul Blair, who batted against Ryan, Sandy Koufax, Sam McDowell, Vida Blue, Dick Radatz, and Goose Gossage, said of Dalkowski, He threw the hardest I ever saw.A near-identical statement came from Cal Ripken Sr., who caught for Dalkowski and whose professional career as a player, manager, and coach spanned five decades. Coliseum and subsequently Dodger Stadium. He ended his career with 2,192 strikeouts and a.249 batting average against him. I also appreciate the chess-like mastery of Sandy Koufax. That speed was measured by a laser radar when it was 9-10 feet from the plate; if measured at the standard . Fastball speed for an average major-league pitcher starts at its lowest point in early April, rises by about 1.0-1.5 mph to a peak in the month of July, and declines gradually thereafter. More impressive is his record of seven no-hitters. A "radar gun" is used to measure the speed of a baseball. known pitch speed tests from 1912 through 1974, http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthocking-intents, http://www.baseball-fever.com/showth-They-Do-Today, If this is your first visit, be sure to Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. He worked in the zone a lot and had feel for 4 pitches. Nobody on my team has hit 100 miles per hour yet this season, but we've got a couple guys who could do it, and I plan to be watching when it happens :). The tech continued to improve. In the last eight years, the league-average fastball has risen about 1 mile per hour. Last but certainly not least, there is Neftali Feliz, who was clocked more recently in 2010 at 103.4, at the Ballpark in Arlington. Baseball Sports. At the top is Aroldis Chapman, the tall, thin, left-handed Cuban defector, who threw a pitch recorded at 105.1 miles per hour as a reliever for the Cincinnati Reds. All rights reserved. No, pitchers didn't throw 150 miles an hour. Cliff Lee average fastball was 90.5 mph, he threw (70% FB, 1% slider, 6% cutter, 10% CB . Hahaha!! Ich-i-ro!' Christian Hunter Greene (born August 6, 1999), nicknamed "Surge", is an American professional baseball pitcher for the Cincinnati Reds of Major League Baseball (MLB). I do remember JR Richard. Even though both were clocked rather crudely, their measurements would extrapolate to over 100 mph on a modern radar gun. Feller was not just a baseball hero. In a 1992 game, Johnson started against Ryan and the Texas Rangers and he got 18 strikeouts, winning the game. 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